Monday, February 21, 2011

shotgun chokes

Well, two months have passed thinking of how a fellow would create an essay that gun enthusiasts would like to read. If you consider that I read the same magazines, books and web crap as you do, written by self proclaimed experts - working for one publication or another and never wishing to offend any of their advertisers, or pissing off their editor, I felt this was an opportunity to call a spade a spade.  So, I thought I would start with the popular phrase "myth busting" and apply my time earned and extensive knowledge to just gun related issues.  The difference being, I will not spend an hour a month blowing up things, just for the sake of entertainment.  Feel welcome to respond regarding any topic that I write about or with any topics you would like to know my opinion on and I will try to incorporate my comments in a future blog.
So, here goes, to whet your appetites, chokes and steel shot.  When shooting steel shot with interchangeable chokes designed to shoot lead, do not use full or improved modified restrictions!  The belief is, modified is full, imp. cyl is modified and skeet and cyl are considered the same as each other.  BULLSHIT.
Not even close to the truth.  The real truth is, that theory evolved because the best choke shape internally was developed over many decades for use with lead shot.  As cartridges got better, so did mobile chokes.  American mobile choke manufactures soon realized by following a tapered section with a parallel section would produce adequate shot patterns with lead shot and in some cases very good shot patterns which was copied by most but not all European gun makers, with none of them knowing at the time that steel shot was around the corner.  None of the mobile choke manufacturers did any experimentation that I know of, other than myself.  They quickly discovered their chokes, especially in the threaded area were expanding, they consider that to be the result of excessive pressure, in actual fact, it's the result of kinetic energy because there is no forgiveness in steel shot as a choke is attempting to squeeze it.  The easiest and least expensive way for them to remedy this was to suggest that you use a more open choke and suggested that a modified would substitute a full if it were shooting steel, which it does not.  The magazine writers all picked up on this information and it fixed the problem for a short time but them, what came next is the hunting fraternity complained that steel shot would not kill anything, only wound ducks and geese if you shot them outside of 20-25 yards.  The shell manufacturers along with their competitive nature, felt they needed to correct that problem so they suggested larger size shot by at least 2 numbers over what your experience would have told you to use if you were using lead, for example, if you used #6 with lead, use #4 with steel.  This also created more problems, now there is less pellets and they damaged chokes to an even greater extent.  They attempted to correct that problem by making heavier and thicker walled wads and at the same time the fact that steel is considerably lighter than lead for any given size, decided they would counter act that problem by making shells that produced shot speeds and pressures in excess of what a conventional shotgun was ever designed to tolerate.  It cured nothing, it just made the problem greater.  Consequently, today's shotgun chokes and barrels that are going to be used with steel shot have to be substantially stronger and heavier.  Some manufacturers of shotgun shells took a much more innovative approach and designed soft (like lead) plyable shot, without a doubt that achievement was only really successful with the Tungsten Matrix made by the famous Kent Cartridge company.  Larger and possibly more recognized shell manufacturers developed heavier shot to try to replicate lead, weight wise for the same equal size.  That also compounded the problem because making steel heavier, really can only be done by adding elements that make it even harder.  Because I am running out of room, in short - choke restrictions for steel shot must be tapered from beginning to the muzzle with no parallel section.  In the right hands, a combination of the right shaped chokes and good quality steel shot shells can result in a good day's hunting at very sporting ranges.  Finally, if I may be so bold, don't over estimate your ability and stop blaming your missed birds on the steel.

10 comments:

  1. You should write more...and tell people about your site...put something up on the board at the club! Keep up the good work brother!
    BTT

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  2. Thank you, I find your blog very informative. I am new to shotguns and would like to hear more factual information on them. Not a sales pitch from another magazine ad. I will check back to see your next post.

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  3. Precision arms my ass... You would get better results from a dollar store pellett gun than one of there rip-off priced firearms. Customer service rating; Zero.
    Don't even bother contacting this so called business.

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    1. I noticed that you posted anonymously, giving them on opportunity to implement customer support. Lame dude.

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    2. Anon my@&& - why hide behind comments when you could step up to the plate!

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  4. Well don't know what the person with the negative comment had??
    I have had both shotgun and rifle work done by both Steve and the original owner Terry and over many years without any complaints

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  5. looking at his pictures looks like his engraver Vlad deserves all the praise seen them in Dallas see the boxlock shitty inletting on the wood to the iron Steve should leave the stocking to someone who know what they are doing I think the only reason why anyone would buy the gun would be for the engraving Great job Vlad

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    1. Your right I was there to and Steve was wining like a baby the engraver was getting all the praise

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    2. You're right about the engraver, Vlad does deserve all the praise (for the engraving) as he does excellent work!

      Now, regarding the "box lock": If you did attend the Dallas show, I can assure you, you did not see a "box lock" action on my table as I don't make them.

      Strange that the ACGG had no hesitation to accept me as a Professional Member based on, among other aspects of my work, stock making. I received praise from all visitors who looked at my work at that show as well as from my customers and yet you, who chose to comment anonymously, have nothing good to say about it.

      Well Fred, I have wasted enough of my valuable time replying to your diatribe, but before I sign off I thought I should mention that I am teaching a course on Fine Double Guns as part of "The Master Craftsman" course in the USA later this year. Perhaps you would like to attend... you may learn a thing or two.

      Sincerely,
      Stephen C. Milton
      Gunmaker

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  6. I own a Fabarm XLR5 shotgun that uses a hyberbolic shaped choke design. The manufacturer claims it can be used with steel shot shooting through the full choke with no ill effects and is proofed as such. I myself haven't tried this yet as I have a fair quantity of Remington Hevi shot and Tungsten matrix that will keep me going for a few more years. I was just wondering if you've done any experiments with this brand? Brad McLeod.

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